Hi everybody.

Hey y'all.

Welcome to Coming Out with Lauren and Nicole.

We are a weekly podcast where we have on queer folks from all walks of life.

They tell us the tales of how they came out to friends, family, and the world at large.

Because who doesn't love a coming out story?

Y'all, today we have on my friend Ben Steven.

Hello, Ben.

Thank you for being here.

Hello, thank you so much for having me.

So, okay, Ben is a writer-performer, primarily a writer at the moment, but I did ask him

if I could shout out his iconic role. If you are a fan

of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, which was a very beloved show of mine, Ben plays a grocery store clerk

with half an eyelid. One of the most visually horrifying characters. If you have any weird

like eyes stuff, this is a hard one to look at.

The makeup was fantastic. So I did want to shout that out because I also love that

that he was like a, like a straight, broly character. I think that that show did really cool.

And, like, just with the guy playing Josh being gay but playing like the

ultimate straight dude bro I'm very impressed at crazy ex-girlfriend's queer and straight

melding of casting in characters so brava yeah it's about time that this gay steal the straight

people's jobs. I know.

I loved it.

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