Episode 194: This Podcast Is Integrity-Curious

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2021

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

We had great fun recording this one, thanks to special guest Greg Gisvold (consultant and senior fellow with the Rule of Law Collaborative at the University of South Carolina) is the winner of a recent charity raffle in which the prize (or penalty???) was ... cohosting the show with us! That proved to be great news for us, for Greg's work around the globe working in support of rule-of-law-building programs couldn't be more interesting and important. Listen in to learn more, as we cover: The latest impeachment developments An update on Steve's litigation (at the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces) on court martial jurisdiction and former servicemembers The delay of the Hambali (et al.) arraignment at GTMO Whither those high-value Islamic State detainees the US acquired from our Kurdish allies back in October 2019? And best of all, our interview with Greg Gisvold regarding rule of law capacity building around the globe Stick around for a comically-overlong segment on the 1986 Mets, too. Seriously...we just kept talking about it, and having no editor, well, it's a long show as a result!

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 194 of the National Security Law podcast.
0:14.2	We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.
0:17.6	It's Wednesday night, February 10th, 2021. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lodick, and Bobby,
0:24.9	we have a guest. We're not alone. I am happy to say that the winner of the raffle for Casa
0:33.2	Marinea, Greg Gisvald, is here to join us as a co-host tonight. Yay!
0:39.7	Insert Hermit Muppets yell right there. I was actually going to do, I was going to do,
0:44.6	um, Greg, on board. Yeah, seriously, Greg. And thank you. I mean, thank you both to you and to
0:53.0	everybody who participated in the raffle.
0:54.4	I mean, we were really happy to be able to support a good cause and grateful to have you on
0:59.5	in recognition of your participation.
1:01.7	It was, it was a delight.
1:04.5	Supporting shelters like Casa Marianella is a sort of family tradition.
1:09.5	My dad spent, I think, 33 years as a board member
1:14.4	volunteer for a similar organization in Portland, Oregon. And so- You're kidding. That's awesome.
1:20.4	Yep. So we are, we're going to spend a little bit of time actually chatting with Greg about
1:25.4	his fascinating work and why and um why he does
1:30.2	you know waste his time listening to podcasts like this one um we also have decided um against probably
1:36.6	everyone else's better judgment but entirely in favor of ours that we're going to end the show
1:40.7	with the discussion of um the sort of a deep dive into the 1986 Mets,
1:46.7	which seems to be one of the things we all have in common here.
1:52.2	But Bobby, we were getting about 15,000 downloads a week on the show.
1:58.1	What percentage of those people are like, are you freaking kidding me?
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