You know the thing and no one picked up your thing

And so you buried the thing

That's not the end of the thing

Don't you like eyes yet there's a spooky surprise

And though you cannot revise

And the book ever really dies.

Welcome to Dead Pilot Society. I'm not even going to do my whole spiel. If you're listening to this episode, chances are you know what this podcast is all about. And this is a very special episode of Dead Pilot Society. This is the text thread Dead Pilot Summit, a conversation with the two teams behind our last two pilots.

Aaron Brownstein and Simon Gans, who wrote Guy Text, and Mike Gagerman and Andrew Waller, who wrote the thread.

Hopefully you've already listened to both of those pilots and my interviews with each team.

I'm bringing them all together for this one. This conversation

gave us an opportunity to go deeper into the creative process of both of these teams. We go step

by step, nut by bolt. And it was an even better conversation than I hoped it would be, mainly

because all of them were so generous to each other. They were quick to praise what they liked and the other team's pilot.

You know, this business can force writers into such a competitive stance,

and it was really nice to hear them compliment each other.

These four are all native Angelinos, and it turned out unsurprisingly that they've got a lot in common.

There are similarities in the pilots, and we talked about how similarities in scripts just inevitably arise without anyone plagiarizing anyone else.

I feel like this is a kind of conversation you're not going to find on any other podcast, and I'm really happy

to bring it to you without any ads or promos. This is just what we do here, and we love doing it.

So enjoy my conversation with Aaron Brownstein, Simon Gans, Mike Gagerman, and Andrew Waller

right now, not even after a brief message.

Welcome all. I've called this a few different things, but I think I called it in my outro, the a male text thread pilot summit. I've also called it a convocation.

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