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When you're talking about like, in the air, there's only, really, there's only,

there's not like as high as you can jump, that's one thing. The difference between a Michael Jordan

and a LeBron James jumping is one looks better in the air, grace through this. Understanding

his body, understanding how to move, like you're painting in the air. There's only, there's only

a few people that can do that. And it has nothing to do with the jumping ability itself. It's just,

he has a 30-agent vertical, but he can make it look like a 46.

Actually, I'll challenge you on that, right? Because everything, everything tracks back to markets,

right? Athletes are a market, and you know, you got a $47 million a year as like the pinnacle

of that market. So everybody's going to flood into that, right? But who makes that very, very top

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