Episode 19: Iran faces a humbler, more dangerous Israel
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Haviv Rettig Gur
4.9 • 640 Ratings
🗓️ 13 June 2025
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
The astonishing Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear program was the inevitable result of October 7, a day that convinced Israelis they do not actually understand their Islamist foes, cannot deter these foes and therefore cannot allow them to develop the capacity to destroy the Jewish state, no matter the cost.
Israel woke up on October 7. Its enemies had been telling it they plan to destroy it for generations; on October 8 it finally started to listen. And the Middle East will never be the same.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everybody. Please excuse the t-shirt and the bags under my eyes. We were woken up in night. |
| 0:16.6 | I'm the only member of my family who, despite multiple attempts, failed to get back to sleep. |
| 0:20.9 | The kids are home from school. |
| 0:22.8 | We don't know for how long, possibly three days, possibly two weeks. |
| 0:26.9 | Israel struck Iran. |
| 0:28.8 | Israel struck Iran massively went after the nuclear program. |
| 0:33.7 | We know that the strikes were in 10 locations, Natanz, being the major uranium enrichment |
| 0:39.4 | center, some significant portion of it is destroyed. We don't quite know how much. From Tabriz, |
| 0:45.1 | all the way in the north to Shiraz, down in the south. A huge campaign, 200 planes, cruise missiles |
| 0:52.9 | fired from Iraqi airspace, everything we have seen in the exchanges |
| 0:57.0 | between Iran and Israel up until now, during which Israel systematically degraded Iranian |
| 1:01.1 | air defenses back in October, back in April of last year. All these capabilities that Israel |
| 1:08.3 | showed that it began mapping out came to fruition. |
| 1:12.9 | And the operation was astonishing. |
| 1:16.4 | People have asked me many times, can Israel do it alone? |
| 1:19.2 | And my answer has always been, you know, it would be long, it would be hard, |
| 1:22.9 | Iran has competence, it has thousands of missiles that can launch at Israel. |
| 1:26.8 | It has proxies. We don't know |
| 1:28.7 | how capable those proxies are around Israel. But mostly it's far away, and it would require |
| 1:34.9 | maybe potentially even boots on the ground. Folks, we discovered today that there were boots on |
| 1:40.1 | the ground. An unbelievable Mosad drone factory within Iranian soil, producing and launching |
| 1:47.3 | the drones from Iranian soil. Everything we saw the Ukrainians do in Russia two weeks ago, |
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