Hey, everybody. Welcome to ABA and Side Track the podcast. That's like reading in your car, but safer.

I'm your host, Robert Perry Cruz, and with me as

always are my fabulous co-hosts. Hey, Rob, it's Dana. And it's me, Jackie. You know,

you know, folks, sometimes when we do this podcast about behavior analysis and behavior

analytic research, I say, let's just record only for BCBA's, you know, behavior analyst. That's it. I don't want

anyone else on the show. I don't want to work with anyone, you know, when I go share behavior

analysis. I just want to tell everyone this is how it is. It's the only way to be and go pounce

if you think differently. But, you know, that's one of the reasons I have-

That's really good because you don't really like to share your time. I don't want to share anything, but that's probably one of the reasons I haven't had a job,

a real job, over a decade at this point.

So, you know, we were talking and we thought...

They say no man in as an island, except for Rob.

Except for me.

We were talking about it.

We said, you know, we talked with a speech and language pathologist, and that was pretty fun.

And then I said, but no more.

I don't want to talk to anybody else.

No other professionals.

That was back in episode 171.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But then, you know, but Jackie and Diana said, you know, we know a really great professor,

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