Episode 187: Being a carer with Penny Wincer

The Scummy Mummies Podcast

Ellie Gibson and Helen Thorn

Kids & Family, Self-improvement, Parenting, Education

4.8 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Our guest for this episode is the brilliant Penny Wincer - writer, photographer, and carer. She tells us about looking after her mum when she was a teenager, and what life is like now she is caring for her autistic son.

We learn about how it feels to be the child of a person with mental health issues, and how Penny coped after her mum's suicide. She also shares the biggest lesson she learned from her mum's experience

We discuss the stigma that still exists around special education, and the difficulties and benefits of having a child who's on a different path. Penny gives us some useful advice for carers, and some ideas for how those around them can offer support. We hear about Penny's own self-care strategies, and why she thinks mum guilt is bullshit. Plus: find out why Helen's coffee machine is like a vagina.

Penny's superb book, Tender: The Imperfect Art of Caring, is out now. You can find her website at pennywincer.com, or follow her on Instagram @pennywincer.

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0:00.0	This is a passenger announcement. You can now book your train on Uber and get 10% back in credits to spend on Uber eats.
0:11.0	So you can order your own fries instead of eating everyone else's.
0:15.0	Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply.
0:20.0	Check the Uber app.
0:27.0	Today's episode is sponsored by EE. Now we've managed to record this episode amongst just the sheer chaos of tour life, juggling teens, homework, washing piles and just mess. They're just mess all the time. How my kids
0:34.8	know how to tie their own shoes or the days of the week is beyond me, but help is at hand.
0:39.9	I am very pleased to tell you that EE have introduced EE Learn.
0:44.0	It's a collection of tools, services and information to help families like mine
0:48.3	learn wonderful things and it's open to everyone everywhere.
0:52.0	The new digital platform, E.E. Learn Smart, gives kids access to
0:55.4	inspiring mentors from fabulous places like Bafter and the FAA. The lessons can help kids pick up
1:01.1	new skills that will help them get on and this could be
1:03.8	something from backyard chemistry to future-ready financial advice. Do you know what I
1:08.2	just wish I had something like this when I was growing up? Actually I think I'm
1:11.6	still growing up so I better go to E.E. Learn right now. And if you want to find out more, just search E.E. Learn. This is the Scummy Mummies podcast.
1:25.0	Hello and welcome
1:32.0	Hello and welcome to the Scummy mummies podcast. It's me Helen Thorne and it's me E. E. Gee Gibson
1:36.0	and guess what Ellie we've got a guest called Penny Windsor. I could never have guessed.
1:40.4	I know she's unbelievable. She's just in front of us.
1:42.8	Oh, Penny.
1:43.8	Hello, how are you?
1:44.8	I'm very well. How are you?
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