Episode 186 Richard Case Nagell Part 4 Bonus Episode 2

JFK The Enduring Secret

Jeff Crudele

Coup D'etat, Documentary, Government, Ruby, History, Jfk, Murder, Kennedy, Mafia, President, Oswald, Dallas, Fbi, Society & Culture, Assassination, Cia, Johnson

4.6 • 602 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Episode 186 is the fourth in a multi-part series covering Richard Case Nagell. This is our second bonus episode and it addresses the perspective that Nagell's trial lawyer Joe Calamia had on his legal proceedings...and the strategy for a defense at the second trial. Nagell's lawyers settled on a temporary insanity plea, after unsuccessfully arguing to both their client and to the court, that Nagell was insane...and thus, should be hospitalized and not prosecuted&...

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0:00.0	Welcome to JFK in The Enduring Secret.
0:06.4	I'm your host, Jeff Crudell.
0:24.2	Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the podcast.
0:32.4	Today's episode is episode 186 and it's part four of a multi-part series related to Richard Case Nagel. And this is bonus episode number two. Years after the Nagel story,
0:39.7	Bob Ybarra would write a book
0:41.2	about the attorney that was most involved
0:43.5	over the years in Nagel's bank case and trial,
0:47.2	attorney Joe Kalamia.
0:49.3	The book was entitled,
0:51.4	My Demons Were Real,
0:53.7	constitutional lawyer, Joe Kalamia's Journey. That book contains a
0:59.2	relatively short but action-packed chapter dedicated to the Nagel case. In it, Ybarra chronicles
1:07.2	what happened during the legal proceedings and trials from Joe Calamia's perspective,
1:12.5	and it's worth giving voice to that here, because much of it speaks to the defense lawyer's view
1:18.8	of Nagel's mental capacity and condition. Granted, again, he was the lawyer attempting to free his
1:25.7	client from prison.
1:38.6	So, there are natural biases in his story, and they are likely slanted to support his view of how things matriculated in the legal proceedings.
1:46.3	But nevertheless, I believe what is stated here is factual, even though some of this is reminiscent of the slog that all of us just experienced in the prior garrison episodes.
1:51.7	Everyone has a point of view and everyone crafts the narrative to support that point of view.
1:58.2	But it's our job as jurors to push through it. And presenting the various views
2:04.0	is essential to trying to understand what the truth really is here. And what I mean by truth is
2:11.1	how much or how little should we believe about Nagel's story and how much of what we conclude one way or the other
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