Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer

to understanding what the hell gender is.

I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuck Woodstock.

Hey everyone. I hope you're all hanging in there. Today on the show, I am very, very excited to share my conversation with writer Heron Walker.

Ozzie and I have wanted to get Heron on the podcast for literally years, but we were very patiently waiting until her book came out and thank God it's finally here.

In this episode, we talk all about Heron's new essay collection, which is titled Aggregated Discontent Confessions of the Last Normal Woman.

Along the way, we discuss marsification, Greer-Lankton, political optimism, Prometheus, Sleepway Camp,

Simpson's DVD commentary tracks, high school GSA activities, and Bill Clinton's death in a tragic saxophone accident.

We also ask whether the gift of the magi is trans,

and Heron explains that regardless of whether it's trans,

it is one of exactly three narrative archetypes.

Everything's either about, like, I would like this thing.

I don't know if I want this thing anymore.

Or, ultimately, it's like, I'm quietly mad at my husband.

And that is every story that there is. I do have two little notes about the interview.

Teeny notes. First, I just wanted to say we recorded this more than a month ago when political

realities were like very, very slightly different. And cru crucially before Katie Perry went to space.

Secondly, you might hear some like rustling and creaking in Heron's audio.

I just wanted to say, sorry about that, but it's simply how it goes sometimes.

Anyway, before we get to the interview, we have two they mail messages for you today.

The emails are, of course, little messages from listeners that we read on the show.

You can sign up for your own they mail via the link in the show notes.

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