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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 184: Make Rule 11 Great Again!

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In this week's episode, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The array of firings and appointments of senior Defense Department officials The law governing the General Services Administration and support for presidential transitions Whether it is appropriate to place pressure on Jones Day (and their other clients) based on the involvement of Jones Day lawyers in election-challenge lawsuits United States v. Maiorana: charge against a Staten Island man, under 18 USC 875(c) (threats of violence), based on vile online postings about killing protestors and government officials (raising First Amendment issues relating to the difference between the "True Threat" and "Incitement" categories) TikTok update: tomorrow (the 12th) is the CFIUS divestment deadline....what will happen next? Since *someone* hasn't watched the first Mandalorian season 2 episodes yet, we are left to chat about the new owner of the Mets and the chances of a Dodgers/Yankees-style spending spree....

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 184 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:15.1

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.5

It's Wednesday afternoon on the 11th day of the 11th month of 2020,

0:24.1

thus it's Veterans Day here in the United States. Special shout out to all our veterans.

0:28.7

I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lodick. Indeed, 11-11 at 11 a.m. Right. Isn't that the, or is it 11-11-a-m?

0:35.3

It was, I believe it was 11th hour, the 11th day of the 11th month when the army

0:39.4

quieted the guns in World War I.

0:43.4

The guns of August.

0:45.0

Can, you know, the one thing I don't know, I'm sure many listeners do know this.

0:49.5

So how much, how much firing was still going on up to the last minute?

0:53.5

How ridiculous is it?

0:56.2

And how awful is it to have been a casualty that morning before it?

1:00.9

Someone somewhere got to be the last casualty of World War I, right?

1:04.3

Inevitably so, I guess.

1:05.5

Indeed.

1:06.7

Yeah, go ahead.

1:08.9

No, I was going to say a lot more macabre than just being Mr. Irrelevant in the NFL draft.

1:14.6

But.

1:15.2

I totally miss that reverence.

1:18.2

Mr. Irrelevant, whoever is the last pick in the NFL draft.

1:20.9

Oh, is that a term of art for that position?

1:23.6

It is.

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