Episode 183: Rejection

The Broad Experience

Careers, Society & Culture, Business

5.0 • 592 Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Rejection plays a part in everyone's work experience. But women are socialized to seek approval, and as my first guest says, 'rejection is the opposite of that.' In this show I speak to Jessica Bacal, author of The Rejection that Changed My Life, about the sting of rejection and what we can learn from it. We also meet nonprofit leader Amy Campbell Bogie. She talks about two searing rejections she went through, and how to emerge gracefully from what can feel like a slap in the face.

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0:28.8	Sleep tracking is intended for general wellness only. Welcome to the broad experience, the show about women, the workplace, and success.
0:44.9	I'm Ashley Milne tight. This time, I came in on a Monday morning and sat through a whole staff
0:51.9	meeting, and then my boss pulled me aside afterwards and said,
0:55.2	so we're really struggling and we've decided to eliminate your position effective immediately.
1:00.1	So you need to pack up your desk and go.
1:02.1	The sting of rejection at work. Nobody likes it, but is it tougher on women?
1:08.8	There is some research that women are more ruminative than men,
1:12.7	and we kind of turn our mistakes and our failures over and over in our minds,
1:18.7	and it can be harder to get past them.
1:22.3	Rejection and recovery.
1:24.4	Coming up on the broad experience.
1:35.3	Music recovery. Coming up on the broad experience. Jessica Bacall directs the Narratives Project at Smith College, the famous women's
1:40.4	college in Massachusetts. She's also the author of a couple of books. Most recently,
1:46.1	The Rejection That Changed My Life. For this, she interviewed 25 women all well known in their
1:51.6	fields about their experiences with rejection and what they learned from those rejections.
1:58.0	Now, Jess and I have something in common. We've both been rejected from jobs we applied for internally, jobs we thought we had an excellent chance of getting.
2:08.5	Jess's story begins a few years ago at Smith when a big, juicy opportunity came up.
2:14.8	I felt like I was pretty well positioned to get that job because I was already running all
2:19.5	kinds of interactive programs, including leadership programs. And my supervisor also encouraged me to
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