If you're feeling like you want more emotional intimacy, it's not something that you're asking your partner to deliver to you.

It's like we got to work together as a team so that we are both feeling closer to each other.

Hello and welcome to the Pillow Talks podcast.

We're your host, Vanessa, and Zander Marin.

I'm a sex therapist with over 20 years of experience. And I'm just a regular dude. We share the

ups and downs in our relationship while giving you step-by-step techniques for improving yours.

Make sure you subscribe for your weekly double date full of totally doable sex tips, practical

relationship advice, hilarious and honest stories of what really goes on behind closed bedroom

doors and so much more. It's the sex education you wish you'd had. Today we are talking

all about intimacy.

Actually, we're doing something special that I'm not sure we've ever done before.

We're making sister episodes, like two back-to-back episodes about some deeply entwined topics.

Siblings, eh?

Sibling sister episodes.

We think of intimacy as two sides to the same coin.

I'm doing all my metaphors today.

Twin flames.

Twin flames, the coin.

We think of it as emotional intimacy and physical intimacy.

Would you say it's two-faced?

What?

No, I wouldn't say that because I think two-faced has a negative connotation.

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