And the Hello and welcome to So Diyker Songwriting, episode 182.

We hope you're all keeping safe and well as we embark on 2021.

This is Simon here with Brian, and joining us for this episode

is a Grammy-winning American singer, songwriter and musician.

In a career spanning over four decades, she's recorded or performed with the likes of Elvis Costello,

Ray Davies, John Prine, Nancy Griffith, Willie Nelson, Emmilu Harris and Steve Earl to name a few.

Back in April she released her 14th studio album, the unapologetically raw and direct

Good Souls Better Angels and a few months ago she joined us from her home in Nashville to chat about that and a good deal more.

We're very happy to welcome the awesome Lucinda Williams to the show.

It's a stunning listen to this new album isn't it?

Oh yeah, there's real toughness and aggression to it new album isn't it? Oh yeah there's a real toughness

and aggression to it isn't there musically and lyrically. Grittier than a beach

picnic during a sandstorm mate. That should have been quoted on the ads.

Actually I think it was recorded in just 15 days,

so that probably goes some way to explain in the in-your-facedness of it.

Yeah, well, there's definitely something to be said for that way of working, isn't there?

Absolutely.

Lucinda was born in Lake Charles, Louisiana in 1953.

Her dad was a poet and academic and introduced his daughter to a lot of great literature

and her mom was an amateur pianist.

As a child, she moved around the deep south of the US and

South America a lot with their father who was a visiting professor. She started playing guitar

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