Hello, I'm Sophia Lusbexter and welcome to Spinning Plates, the podcast where I speak to

to busy working women who also happen to be mothers about how they make it work.

I'm a singer and I've released seven albums in between having my five sons aged 16 months to 16

years, so I spin a few plates myself. Being a mother

can be the most amazing thing, but can also be hard to find time for yourself and your own

ambitions. I want to be a bit nosy and see how other people balance everything. Welcome to spinning plates.

Good afternoon or good morning, so it was very presumptuous for me to think you're listening in the afternoon just because it's afternoon now.

I am hiding in my bedroom. It's Sunday afternoon. We're about to eat a big roast dinner. I'm lying here with Ray, who's staying impressively quiet. We're about to have roast pork today, and I have been wearing a Christmas hat most of today because we've just

finished decorating the tree. And actually, it did actually really work. I wasn't feeling

Christmassy at all, sort of this time yesterday. But now that there's

tinsel and baubles and all that sort of stuff everywhere, my brain has gone, well, ho, ho, hold on.

It's flipping Christmas. And if you're into that kind of thing, we're going to do a kitchen

disco on the 18th of December at half past six so please

please do give me any Christmas song suggestions there's loads of songs out there there's a couple

I'm like definitely want to do that but actually I'm open to anything um because it's sort of the same

thing that happened when we did the Halloween one suddenly had like a complete brain freeze of trying

to remember anything other than about three songs.

Anyway, this week's guest is Sally Hughes.

Oh, bless you, Ray.

This week's guest is Sally Hughes, beauty writer, editor, author.

But actually, this particular conversation really really really resonated with me

Sally spoke with such intelligence and sensitivity

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