Episode 174: The H5N1 Pandemic Cliff: Are We at the Edge?

Osterholm Update

CIDRAP

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4.8 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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In "The H5N1 Pandemic Cliff: Are We at the Edge?," Dr. Osterholm and Chris Dall discuss the ongoing challenge of H5N1 influenza, cover increasing trends in respiratory illness, and announce a new CIDRAP report on Chronic Wasting Disease. Dr. Osterholm also answers a listener question on H5N1 in wild birds and cats and provides a tribute to the late President Jimmy Carter.  <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/chronic-wasting-disease/cwd-spillover-report-2025">Chronic Wasting Disease Spillover Preparedness and Response: Charting an Uncertain Future </a>(CIDRAP) <a href="https://ivr.cidrap.umn.edu/">Influenza Vaccines Roadmap Initiative</a> (CIDRAP) Follow us on <a href="https://bsky.app/">Bluesky</a>: Dr. Michael Osterholm (<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/mtosterholm.bsky.social">@mtosterholm.bsky.social</a>) and CIDRAP (<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/cidrap.bsky.social">cidrap.bsky.social</a>) <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/osterholm-update-covid-19">MORE EPISODES</a>       <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/support-cidrap">SUPPORT THIS PODCAST</a>

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Osterholm Update, a podcast on COVID-19 and other infectious diseases with Dr. Michael Osterholm.
0:15.4	Dr. Ostrome is an internationally recognized medical detective and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, or CIDRAP, at the University of Minnesota. In this podcast, Dr. O. Strom
0:27.0	draws on nearly 50 years of experience investigating infectious disease outbreaks to provide
0:31.8	straight talk on the latest infectious disease and public health threats. I'm Chris Dahl,
0:37.2	reporter for CidWap News, and I'm your host for these conversations.
0:44.3	Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of the Ostorm Update podcast.
0:48.3	And happy New Year to everyone in the podcast family.
0:51.3	As we begin this new year, we face an infectious disease landscape that is
0:55.9	both familiar and unknown. We know that COVID-19 is still with us, that we will likely see peaks
1:02.2	and valleys and infections throughout the year, and that new variants in waning immunity will continue
1:06.8	to be challenges. But could the virus evolve in ways that surprise us? H5N1 avian flu will also continue to be a
1:14.2	challenge for poultry and dairy farmers, but could the virus acquire the mutations that boosts its
1:19.0	potential to spread in people? Throughout the year, we will likely talk about the infectious diseases
1:24.0	we've discussed on this podcast over the past several years, whether it be MPpox, dengue, marburg, polio, or respiratory sensational virus, just to name a few. Will a new
1:34.4	virus emerge that we need to add to that list? And finally, could new U.S. health leaders,
1:39.7	with controversial views on infectious disease and public health, reverse decades of progress
1:44.0	that the
1:44.3	country has made against preventable diseases. There are a lot of unknowns in 2025 when it comes
1:49.5	to infectious disease. So in this January 9th episode of the podcast, we'll start with what we know.
1:55.2	We'll bring you up to speed on the latest COVID-19 flu and RSV data, discuss the latest
1:59.9	developments in the ever-evolving H5N1 avian flu
2:02.8	outbreak, answer IID queries on H5N1 and cats and songbirds, and tell you about a new
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