Episode #174: Bronze Age Atlantis

Brothers of the Serpent

Society & Culture, History, Philosophy

4.8 • 668 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2020

⏱️ 162 minutes

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Summary

We are joined once again by Snakeforce member Tony Petrangelo to continue discussing the topic of Plato's Atlantis, and whether this story could have possibly been referring to the time period of the bronze age collapse and the invasion of Egypt by the mysterious "Sea People".

Tony leads us through the complexities of bronze age civilizations in the Mediterranean, looking at clay tablets of letters being written from one king to another describing the state of their kingdoms and the problems they were facing. We also look at the description of the invasion and defeat of the Sea People in Egypt, how they were described, and what they were called, and where they may have been from.

In the end, what Tony is showing us are the correlations to these events and some of the details given by Plato. He doesn't have a "location" of Atlantis, or an idea of "who" the "Atlanteans" were. Rather, he is looking at the evidence to see if this may have been the time period for the events described by Plato.

Here is a list of the sources Tony used for this episode:

Books

Meet me in Atlantis by Mark Adams

Sunken Kingdom by Peter James

1177 BC by Eric Cline

Sea Peoples of the Bronze Age Mediterranean c.1400 BC–1000 BC by Andrea Salimbeti & Raffaele D’Amato

Seagoing Ships & Seamanship in the Bronze Age Levant by Shelley Wachsmann

Exodus to Arthur by Mike Baillie

Papers

Literary History in the Parian Marble by Andrea Rotstein

A Mycenaean Fountain on the Athenian Acropolis by Oscar Broneer

Athens in the Late Bronze Age by Oscar Broneer

Landscape Changes around Tiryns during the Bronze Age by Eberhard Zangger

The Great Karnak Inscription of Merneptah: Grand Strategy in the 13th Century B.C. by Colleen Manassa Darnell

Libyan Trade and Society on the Eve of the Invasions of Egypt by Seth Richardson

The Role of the Lukka People in Late Bronze Age Anatolia by Trevor Bryce

The Ethnicity of the Sea Peoples by Frederik Christiaan Woudhuizen

Connected Histories: the Dynamics of Bronze Age Interaction and Trade 1500–1100 bc by Kristian Kristiansen & Paulina Suchowska-Ducke

New technologies and transformations in the European Bronze Age: the case of Naue II swords by Paulina Suchowska-Ducke

Transcript

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0:00.0	Bronze Age Atlantis with Tony Petrangelo.
0:07.6	You're listening to Brothers of the Serpent podcast.
0:19.9	And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, angels and demons, monsters and gentlemen boys and girls angels and evenings and monsters and
0:24.8	the monsters and serpents to brothers of the serpent podcast coming to you not live from the 10 by 10 by 10
0:29.5	tant to keep of science nestled amongst the dusty bones of an ancient seabed high atop the
0:34.0	ever's plateau and we are joined by The Watcher.
0:37.9	He is en route from space station to space station, so he won't be coming in to talk to us,
0:42.6	but he is listening.
0:44.1	And we'll be contributing with text and helping us out, keeping us on the straight and narrow
0:49.4	in terms of the truth.
0:50.3	Hopefully.
0:50.7	I mean, I don't know if he can do that with Tony, who is joining us again.
0:53.8	Tony was here last time at episode 167, which was titled Plato, Tameas, and Atlantis.
1:01.0	And he kind of, we kind of went through the works of Plato that in regards to Atlantis with him.
1:06.6	That was a great show. And so we're having him come back now to basically that show, Tony, was like a, you're
1:13.4	working up to something, right?
1:14.6	So now we're going to the real deal.
1:16.5	This is the real stuff, Bronze Age Atlantis.
1:20.2	Well, it depends on, I guess, your point of view.
1:22.3	This is what you wanted me to talk about the first time.
1:24.4	That's right.
1:24.6	That's right.
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