Pushkin. There are fundamental beliefs that I hold, values and principles, but in terms of the direction of the world, does the arc of justice ever arrive at its

destination, does the arc of justice even exist?

I don't know.

I do know that this world ultimately will end.

I know that human beings won't be here forever.

I know we have a chance in the brief time we're here to

become the best expressions of who we are.

That was Brooke Gladstone. I'm San Frigoso and this is Talk Easy. Welcome to the show. Hey everyone. For the last 20 years journalist Brooke Gladstone has been making sense of the news.

Her show on the media says to examine the media

the media narratives that shape our world view

for better or for worse.

And this is undeniably true. The Peabody winning WNYC program is focused on contextualizing all forms of media, print, web, TV. but when I describe it now I can feel it may sound a little inside

baseball, a piece of media about other media, but that's simply the show's hook. The core of

on the media and really by extension Brooke's work is an exploration of people and ideas.

Sometimes it's about people in the press,

and other times it's about people like you and I,

people doing their best, reading and watching, trying desperately to keep a pace with the 24-hour news cycle.

I don't know about you, but in these last few months, I've found trying to keep up with all of this to be really futile.

It's Brooke who makes the futility feel a little less bad each week on her show.

Her great gift, and it's something we talk about in this episode, but her great gift is an ability

to see and speak clearly about a whole range of subjects prone to

obfuscation. From DC politics to First Amendment debates to larger cultural

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