Welcome to the Jewelry District, a podcast by J.C.K. brought to you by De Beers. Today, Rob Bates and Victoria Gamalski talk about trends spotted at watches and wonders,

updates on tariff refunds for importers, and QVC's bankruptcy.

Hey, everyone.

Welcome to the jewelry district.

This is Victoria Gamalski, editor-in-chief of JCPay and J-CK Online.com, calling in from Los Angeles.

And I'm with Rob Bates, contributing editor of J-C-K and J-C-K Online.com, calling in from my apartment in New York City.

How you doing, okay?

I'm doing good.

I'm doing good.

Hanging in. We're all hanging in.

That's all you can do. It's the best we can ask for here. Yeah, this is always my busy, busy,

busy time. I mean, fall ends up being very busy too, but as I'll talk about shortly, I always have a

big trip in the middle of the spring. It's either late, late March or tends to be early April.

This year it was closer to mid-April,

but of course it's watches and wonders fair in Geneva.

That takes like a solid week out of my life,

but then it ends up taking another week

because I just sleep so little when I'm there

that it takes the recovery feels longer than it needs to be

because I just am catching up on so much lost sleep. I mean, I literally didn't sleep one wink

on the flight over. And I'd also, and I forgot to mention, I came directly from the Jewelers Mutual

Conversations in Half Moon Bay Conference. So that took place in April 10th to the 12th in

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