Welcome to the worship leader probs podcast, where we aim to entertain, encourage, and equip worship and tech leaders all around the world.

Look, we all know that serving in worship and production is great, but the problems...

Those are real.

Thanks for joining us as we dive into today's episode with our host, Brian Tabor.

Welcome to episode 170 of the Worship Leader Probs podcast. Guys, we've got a treat for you today,

and we are always, always, always. Thankful that you join us. You know, we always talk about the

three E's. If you're new to the podcast, this is what we're about. We want to entertain you,

because if we can make you laugh, it'll remind you that you're not alone. We're all in this together, man, and that's what this community is about. So we want to entertain you. We want to encourage you. We hope you feel encouraged after listening to this podcast. And we want to equip you. And so we always want to present some tools that will help you. And I have a treat for you. He is not anew to the podcast. He's been on before. We interviewed him.

We call him the big strategic. It's Heath Bottomley. The big strategic, huh? The big strategic,

the big strategic. Or that's where we cut it off for editing if you need yeah if you need strategy

this is your guy well hey i'll take it i'll own it i'll own it that's awesome well you know hey i'm

glad i'm glad to be here i know that uh i know that everything every time i have a chance to be

on here with you um almost i'd say 10% of it is actually serious.

The other 90 is complete nonsense.

But most of that 90 I know is from me, so I'll own that.

I know we have the great opportunity to talk with Matt McKay from House Wright Productions, which is great.

He's a great guy. And I know that what's cool is seeing how their company is just making

some great inroads into ministry areas all around the nation.

But yeah, before we go any further, I think there's someone very special that we need to

acknowledge.

Someone special in the room.

Very special. In our hearts. Mooy special, as they say south of the border. Our friends at

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