Hey guys, welcome to another edition of Off Air with Carmen.

Today's guest is Zach Williams,

and this was recorded back in March,

BC before COVID.

And this was actually the last thing that we did,

the last event we did before everything shut down. It was backstage before several

sold out shows. It was Zach Williams, We The Kingdom, and Kane. So you're going to enjoy this conversation and

then I just want to tease to the end. Make sure you listen all the way to the end because I did a check-in with Zach.

Just to back up a second, the first time we sat down with Zach Williams, he told us a hilarious story about the first time he met Chris Pratt,

and I've actually included that story.

So here's my recording. Zach Williams is here with me.

This is the next episode of Off Air with Carmen, and I got to pull back the curtain just a little bit because

Dave and Bill and I have worked together as a team for 16 years and I launched this podcast, I launched this podcast in January and it's been a little bit of a learning

car for me, Zach, because I'm used to having my bumpers. Like the three of us, if one

drops the ball, the other one can pick up and run with it.

Bill has been on my podcast. Dave has not, Dave has not even sat in on a recording, Bill has

sat in on a few. So I'm recording this podcast and I have my

morning show partners literally sitting in two, what do you call these chairs?

No, they're like, they're like conference room chairs and they've got their arms folded like they're

they're grating me this is really weird this is where it's I'm going to turn around

and not look at them.

So, Zach, let's pick up with candles.

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