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Episode 17: Clara Schwartz: When Nerds Attack Pt. 1

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True Crime Campfire

True Crime, Society & Culture, History

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2019

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

December 10, 2001. Leesburg, Virginia. Neighbors find the body of Dr. Robert Schwartz, a brilliant DNA researcher, lying in a pool of blood on his living room floor. He had been stabbed more than 25 times with a very large blade, and an X was carved into the back of his neck. Dr. Schwartz was, by all accounts, a quiet and mild-mannered scientist. Who could possibly hate him enough to do this? The investigation into this beyond-brutal murder would soon take a turn no one could have predicted. Detectives would soon find themselves delving into the lives of a group of fantasy-obsessed teenagers, the leader of which was the victim's own daughter. Join us for a wild-but-true story of vampire assassins, dragons, poison, and plotting.

Sources:

Book: I'd Kill for You by M. William Phelps
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/va-court-of-appeals/1204421.html
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-oct-16-na-sword16-story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2003/09/09/va-scientists-killer-gets-life-sentence/97617817-bcd2-43e9-a806-168d8a18173c/

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0:00.0

Hello, campers. Grab your marshmallows and gather around the true crime campfire.

0:05.0

We're your camp counselors. I'm Katie and I'm Whitney.

0:08.0

And we're here to tell you a true story that is way stranger than fiction.

0:12.0

We're roasting murderers and marshmallows around the

0:13.8

true crime campfire.

0:17.0

Nords have always gotten a bad rap. But we like nerds. We are nerds from way back.

0:28.0

Our feeling is, whatever your passion in life, be it Star Trek or Star Wars or video games or were wolves or whatever, you should fly your flag with pride.

0:37.0

Do what makes your weird little heart happy. It's what we're doing with this podcast.

0:42.0

But campers, here's the thing. It doesn't happen very often, but once

0:46.9

in a great while, you get yourself a bad nerd. Once in a while, a nerd strays from their lawful good alignment, and when that happens, watch out.

0:57.0

This is when nerds attack, the murder of Dr. Robert Schwartz. Okay, so campers, we are in Leesburg, Virginia, December 10th, 2001.

1:22.1

Colleagues of Dr. Robert Swartz, a renowned biophysicist and DNA researcher,

1:27.0

were concerned when he didn't show up for work and didn't call in.

1:30.6

This was hugely out of character for Dr. Swartz and his work friends knew he lived kind of out in the boonies.

1:36.0

And they thought, you know, what if he'd fallen or something and couldn't get to a phone?

1:40.0

So one of his work friends contacted a neighbor of Dr. Schwartz and the neighbor agreed to go check on him.

1:46.0

He picked up another neighbor on the way and they drove over there.

1:50.0

And Dr. Schwartz lived in an old farmhouse known as the Stone House. The neighbors

1:54.1

knocked on the front door, there was no answer, they peaked in a couple of

1:57.5

windows but they couldn't really see anything, so they decided to go around to the

2:00.9

back door, which they knew Robert often left unlocked.

2:06.0

Again, how many times do we have to say it, yeah, first.

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