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TROJAN WAR:  THE PODCAST

EPISODE 17 “ACHILLES’ HEEL”

TROJAN WAR: THE PODCAST

Jeff Wright

History

4.8650 Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2016

⏱️ 74 minutes

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THE STORY  (59 minutes)   With Hector dead, the desperate Trojans grasp on to increasingly ridiculous deus ex machina solutions to save their city from the Greeks.  And then old King Priam hatches the most hair-brained (or brilliant) scheme of them all….. THE COMMENTARY  HOW DID ACHILLES DIE and WHO KILLED HIM? (15 minutes; begins at 59:00)   With this podcast episode we leave behind Homer`s account of the Trojan War, and once again delve into that jambalaya of accounts, fragments, partial references and contradictory content that served as our source materials in Episodes One through Ten.   I remind listeners that the death of Achilles does not appear in Homer – though Homer clearly predicts it and even tells us who will kill Achilles (Paris), and even where Achilles will die (on the Trojan Plain).  I then raise the perennial and frustrating debate on whether or not Achilles was immune from physical injury.  I note that Homer’s Achilles is vulnerable to injury (a Trojan arrow draws blood in Book 21 of Iliad; and Achilles needs armour when entering battle).  But on the other hand, the Achilles of the River Styx story (you will recall that Thetis immersed her infant son in that river) is clearly immune from physical injury.  I note that a storyteller cannot have it both ways.  Either Achilles is immune, due to his Styx-dunking, or he is not immune.  I defend my personal storyteller choice of “immune Achilles” on the grounds that the Styx-dunking is an established and popular part of the Trojan War Epic canon, and in my view makes for a more satisfying story.  Homer, I note, did not include the Styx story, because it had not yet been written down (or even created?) until 100 A.C.E., by a writer named Statius (in The Achilleid).  Next I explore whether a poison arrow, if lodged into Achilles’ left heel, could have actually caused his death.  Here I cite The Trojan War: A New History, by Barry Strauss, 2006,  who argues “yes”. Finally, I confess that my “version” of the death of Achilles (via Priam’s plot to marry Achilles to his daughter Polyxena, and Paris’ assassination of Achilles in a temple of the god Apollo) holds together on the most gossamer of primary source threads.  But I invite (dare) storytellers to come up with a more plausible and satisfying account of Achilles’ death, given the paucity and contradictory nature of the surviving accounts.  I conclude by reviewing a series of “death of Achilles” accounts which I rejected in my version of the telling.  I conclude by inviting listeners to explore the source materials, and come up with their own best understanding of how Achilles died. Happy Listening, Jeff RELATED LINKS ACHILLES: MYTH VS REALITY by greekmythcomix WHY WAS PARIS SUCH AN UTTER PLONKER by greekmythcomix DEATHS IN THE ILIAD INFOGRAPH by greekmythcomix ACHILLES' LAST STAND by Led Zeppelin, live 1979 YOUTUBE RELATED IMAGES

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You are listening to Trojan War, the podcast, history's most awesome epic.

0:20.9

This is episode number 17 in the series.

0:36.6

Today's episode is titled, Achilles Heel.

0:40.3

The So welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to episode number 17 of Trojan War the podcast. I'm choosing to title this particular episode, Achilles, Heel.

1:14.4

Now, if you recall where we left things at the end of episode number 16, the episode titled

1:19.2

Priam, well, Achilles had returned the body of Hector to his old father, poor King Priam,

1:26.5

who had then taken Hector's body back into Troy,

1:29.3

where the Trojan people were in the process of performing all of the appropriate funeral

1:34.2

rights and all of the morning for the body of their crown prince.

1:38.3

And Achilles, as Priam had left his tent, had granted to Priam on the Trojans on behalf of the Greek army an 11-day

1:47.3

truce in the fighting. So for 11 days, while the Trojans buried and mourned their crown prince,

1:53.7

there was no fighting on the battlefield. And then the 12th day arrived. Now, technically, on the 12th day, the fighting was welcome to resume in full-fledged glory if you wanted. But the most curious thing kind of happened on the 12th day, and that's that, well, neither side really responded to the end of the truce with vigorous and renewed fighting. So what I want to do is spend a few moments

2:17.5

kind of exploring the mental and the physical set of both camps in this war, the Greeks and

2:22.3

the Trojans, as the fighting resumed this time without the Trojans having their champion,

2:26.7

Hector. So let's start inside of the Greek camp and explore why the Greeks were not out there

2:33.0

in a desperate desire to continue to fight. Because if you think about it, you'd assume that the Greeks were not out there in a desperate desire to continue to fight. Because if

2:35.5

you think about it, you'd assume that the Greeks now would be wanting to press their advantage

2:40.0

as much as they possibly could. I mean, after all, Achilles had destroyed Hector, the

2:45.4

Trojans, everything, if you will, their crown prince, their greatest fighter, their political

2:49.6

leader, the de facto king. And on the day that Achilles had destroyed, Hector, of course, he had first

2:55.1

destroyed, well, much of the Trojan army. So you'd think that the Greeks now would go, okay,

3:01.1

the Trojans are physically decimated, they're psychologically decimated, let's press the

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