Just a quick note before we start the show, this episode is structurally similar but tonally,

extremely different than what we usually put out into the world. If you are brand new to gender

reveal, I really, really encourage you to start with a different episode, like pretty much any other episode.

We have lists of recommendations at gender podcast.com slash starter packs.

Or you can just back up a couple of weeks to like Sheing or Lucy or Cassius or whatever jumps out at you.

Okay, here's the show. Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to

understanding what the hell gender is. I'm your host and resident gender

detective Tuckuck withstock.

Hey everyone, hope you're all hanging in there.

Hey everyone, hope you're all hanging in there. This week it is my honor to share my conversation with Fola Francis, which was recorded on December 4th of last year.

You might be familiar with Fola as a Legos-based fashion designer, model, and actress, or as one of the most visible and publicly out trans women in all of Nigeria.

I have been trying for a month to figure out how to say the next sentence in a normal way and ultimately there is no good way to see this.

But shortly after our interview, Fola was in a tragic shocking accident in which she drowned at a beach in Lagos. And before we go any further, I just want to really emphasize.

Fola very much wanted to live. She was planning to live a long and joyous life, and I would very much like much

like she was planning to live a long and joyous life.

So if you are struggling with,

you know, the looming specter of death that haunts us all,

the sheer amount of loss and suffering we've all been hearing

about every day for the last several months and beyond.

I see you, I get it, and I want to encourage you to reach out to people in your life

because the most important thing we can do right now is

really to support each other.

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