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Welcome to Apple Insider episode 162.

I'm Victor your host.

This is not the Apple Sider Podcast.

If you're looking for that, please look again.

Join us for all things Apple, all things iPod, all things Mac things Mac all things iPhone here we are and I am

with Mike Wirthley I mean I guess if they want an Apple cider podcast we can try and

figure something out but I'm not sure that we're going to do that just

today.

So this stems from something we talked about last week.

What we talked about last week is there is a very real problem and the very real problem is that there is a

podcast out there named the Apple cider podcast and when you ask your home pod you

get that instead of us and so I you know I, I was talking with Neil, I was threatened to

arrange that we get those hosts on and talk all about apple cider.

Let's do that. That sounds exciting. I'm saying. So that's not this week. This week we have all kinds of other things going on. Now I want to start with consumer reports and I know you had a TIF with them.

Oh yeah.

But we, those, they're the best people over there.

They're handsome, they're well dressed, their nails are manicured, and they have the best opinions.

And among those best opinions, this week, they've pegged Apple's iPhone 10 and 8 plus as having the very best smartphone cameras.

Yeah, it's, this is not a, this is not what I had a problem with with the home pod. Not at all. This is a case where they took all of their hardware, they evaluated over weeks and months. Like for instance, they've been beating on the iPhone 10 since November.

This is fine. If they want to publish something that's got

this is why we came up with this, this is how we tested it,

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