Welcome to CertainSkale Rewind with your hosts, Matt Fondleer and Ian Bag.

Hey everybody, welcome back to Sword and Scale Rewind. This is the show where we talk about

that other show, Sword and Scale. You know what? You love it. Hopefully you like us too.

I'm one of the hosts. My name is Matt Fondleer. I've written some episodes of the show, but

I just love it. I just love Sword and Scale. Scared the crap out of me many, many years

ago. I just got totally hooked on it. If you're listening to this show, I sort of feel

like you're probably feeling the same way. Now I'm joined once again by one of my good

buds in Bag. Well, that's just how I found the show. How did you find out about it?

Well, I reached out to you. You reached out to me. You said, Andy, I like this. We scared

shitless. I was like, who is this? And he's in, it's fondly. And I said, oh well, Fondleer.

And then I listened to the show. I was like, wow. I want to chance maybe I'm part of

this. And you said, well, it's a matter of fact. It's a matter of fact. Yes. Come in in.

And now we talk matter every week. We just loved the way that you talked about dead babies

and horrible murderers that we're like, this guy is our guy. This guy has no shame. We

love him. Well, if you listened to me last week, then you did your homework. And you already

listened to episode 167. And if you listened to 167, you're probably curled up in a little

ball in the fetal position in your software. This one is sad. This is definitely one of

the more F-DEP stories that we've done, which is really saying something because everyone's

if they're all messed. So this one is just this is just sadness. It's just there's a couple

parts in here where I know I don't think we're victim blaming, but we'll discuss. Sure.

That's what we do on the show. This is a reaction show if you've never listened to it before.

Yeah. What we do is we listen to the same thing you just listened to. And then we say all

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