You're listening to the Bible for Normal People, the only God ordained podcast on the internet.

I'm Pete Ends.

And I'm Jared Byas.

Welcome everyone to this episode of the Bible for Normal People.

And our topic today is teaching God to your kids.

Yeah, I mean, nothing easy, easy, easy.

And our guest is Matthew Paul Turner, who is a name I hope all of you know or all of you will get to know pretty soon.

He just writes the most amazing children's books. The most recent one of which is what is God like, which is like the question I think.

Right. And partners in that with Rachel Hold Evans, the late Rachel Hold Evans, who had put together some ideas for a children's book and Matthew, who had close friends with Rachel agreed to take that on as a project.

And so, you know, we've been we all benefit from that.

Yes, from that collaboration, right?

Yeah, and we've gotten to know Matthew a little bit first through the evolving faith conference. Of course, at Rachel set up. So it's just great to have him on because he really he's so intentional about what he wants children to try to understand about God that produces joy and and and healing and not something that can unwittingly, but can cause real difficulties for kids when they get older.

And I've seen that many, many times. And it's not good.

I would say even for those of you who are listening who maybe who don't have children, I think for me, one of the impacts of this episode and others that we've done has been to even just go back to my own child.

Yes.

And be able to forgive, frankly, some of those people in my life who did the best they could and maybe didn't have the resources that we're now having now.

But I just think it's still relevant for everyone to be able to listen to.

Right.

And you know, if if you want, you know, we have a Patreon, we have a parenting channel on our on our Slack group that meets and people can talk about this stuff and they do because it's a good safe place for people to say, listen, I'm just tired.

And I don't know what to do and anybody have any resources in this or that. So it's a really good place for people to process the very kinds of things we're talking about in this particular episode.

Yeah, so if you're interested in that, you can just go to patreon.com, friend slash the Bible for normal people or just listen to this episode.

Alright, folks, let's get to it.

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