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Hello, and welcome to yet another duology of The Lines Led by Donkey's Podcast. I'm Joe,

and with me is always Liam. Hello, Liam.

Hello, and welcome to The Lines Led by Donkey's Podcast.

This episode will be coming out, but not that long ago, obviously, Liam and I, for us,

it's last week. Recorded a duology about the Pancho via expedition.

And I asked any Mexican listeners, head and the opinions regarding Pancho via how he's seen in

Mexico today, how he's taught in schools and things like that. And I did get a comment from a long

time Mexican listener. And she said, via scene in Mexico as a folk hero, like a Mexican Robin Hood,

and he gave a black eye to the gringos, and they never captured him. Obviously, I am, this is a

direct quote. And him not being on the Victoria side of the war and later being assassinated,

made sure that his legend spreads as well as meeting that well, the Constitutionalistas,

sorry, like Carranza and Obergon are viewed as the men that gave us the PRI via Enzappada are the

people's underdogs and ones that would have given us a fair country. So in a way, defeat made

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