Episode 165: Lucy Sante

Gender Reveal

Tuck Woodstock

Lgbtq, Documentary, Queer, Personal Journals, Gender, Nonbinary, Society & Culture, Genderqueer, Transgender, Trans

4.8 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Tuck chats with writer Lucy Sante (she/her). Topics include:

Why Lucy finally transitioned after avoiding it for nearly 60 years
Why the worst trans memoirs are like pre-cooked bacon
What does it mean to identify as a bohemian?
Reading about the Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries in the newspaper as a high school student
Plus: Trans lit recs; vibe shifts at the Strand; and how Harry Potter ruined a visit to a Portuguese bookstore

This Week in Gender: Cecilia at St. Patrick’s. (Full video on YouTube. Read more in Vogue. More photos via Time. Here’s a recap of the aftermath. Most importantly, donate to the Legacy Fund!)

Find Lucy at lucysante.com. I Heard Her Call My Name is available now.

Other texts referenced:

Low Life by Lucy Sante
Nevada by Imogen Binnie
Andrea Long Chu (generally)
Can the Monster Speak? by Paul Preciado
I Want What I Want by Geoff Brown
April Ashley’s Odyssey by Duncan Fallowell & April Ashley
Apologia Pro Vita Sua by John Henry Newman
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
An Anecdoted Topography of Chance by Daniel Spoerri
A Sorrow Beyond Dreams by Peter Handke
Maybe the People Would Be the Times by Lucy Sante
“Commerce” by Lucy Sante (link)

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: “Vulcan Street” & “Douglass Stairs” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: Popwink (code: GENDER20) and DeleteMe (code: TUCK20)

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0:00.0	Popwink is a trans-owned sticker club and art shop. Sticker club members get to vote on the theme every single month.
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0:18.7	Use the code Gender20 for 20% off your first order or your first six months of sticker club at poplink.co. Welcome to gender reveal a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding
0:46.6	what the hell gender is.
0:48.9	I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuck Woodstock.
0:53.0	Hey everyone, hope you've all been hanging in there.
1:00.0	Hey everyone, hope you've all been hanging in there. This week on the show I am very
1:04.8	excited to share my conversation with writer Lucy Sont. Lucy has recently been on a whirlwind
1:09.7	press tour for her latest book, which is a transition memoir called I Heard Her Call My Name.
1:14.4	In the last few days she has been profiled, reviewed, and were dead named in seemingly
1:18.7	every major US publication including Vogue, Vulture, Slate, L, the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, the New Republic,
1:25.1	the LA Times, and of course the New York Times.
1:28.7	But we don't subscribe to the New York Times here.
1:30.9	We only subscribe to Grinder's fifth favorite podcast of
1:33.7	2022. So here we are. In this week's episode Lucy tells us how she finally
1:38.8	allowed herself to transition after avoiding it for nearly 60 years. She also talks about working at the
1:44.7	Strand, reading trans news in the village voice in the 1970s, and experiencing
1:49.6	this spooky encounter. That was like, you know, the ghost of Christmas past or whatever. It was terrifying.
1:57.6	Who could it be? Guess you'll have to listen and find out. But before we get to that, it's time for this week in gender.
2:02.8	Just a heads up.
2:09.8	This segment is once again about Cecilia Gentile and the service that took place
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