Welcome to the Cannabis Cautilance Podcast.

I'm your host, Tad Hussey of Kiss Organics.

This is the podcast where we discuss the cutting edge of growing from a science-based perspective

and drawn top experts from around the industry to share their wisdom and knowledge.

My guest this week is Joey Santor. Joey spent over a decade as a railroad engineer

before trading the tracks

for the field full-time. Today he is a leading naturalist and the author of the newly released

book Concrete Botany, The Ecology of Plants in the Age of Human Disturbance. Joey has built

a massive cult following through his platform. Crime pays, but botany doesn't. With over a half a million YouTube subscribers and a top charting science podcast, he has

reached an audience of millions who, prior to finding his channel, never thought they'd

care about a rare desert butt week or the biogeography of the Southwest.

Through his platform, crime pays, but botany doesn't. Joey bridges the gap between

academic science and the general public, using humor and social commentary to explain complex

topics like biogeography and speciation. His work is a call to action to find the meaning

in the deep time of geology and the resilience of native plants and an age of human disturbance.

Joining us today to talk about his new book, The Future of Our Ecosystems, and why we should

probably all kill our lawns is Joey Santor.

Hey, Joey, thanks for coming on the show today.

Thanks for having me.

Thank you.

Yeah, I've been following your work for a long time and I was really excited to connect. And just for listeners who may not have, you know, seen your stuff on social media or familiar with you, can you give us a little overview into who you are and kind of how you got into plants?

Yeah, I was, I'm just some schmuck, man.

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