Do you ever hope that our therapist takes your side?

Oh, absolutely.

I agree.

Sometimes he does.

And sometimes he doesn't. Hello and welcome to the Pillow Talks podcast. We're your host Vanessa and

Zander Marin. I'm a sex therapist with over 20 years of experience.

And I'm just a regular dude.

We share the ups and downs in our relationship

while giving you step-by-step techniques

for improving yours.

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It's the sex education you wish you'd had.

So a few months back, we released episode 144,

surprise, we are in couples therapy.

Surprise!

And we talked about our journey

of being in therapy in this season of our lives.

We shared a lot of practical information

about how we found a therapist.

And we also got really personal about the resistance

one of us had to going

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