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Yeah, you're going to say it. No, I was just going to say I'm very excited. Oh, good. Well, I think a lot of people are going to be excited because this has been a highly requested topic for us since we started probably. Don't you think? I feel like this one's always like do this. And that is a deep dive into the completely bizarre life and crimes of Ed Gain. Now Ed has served as the inspiration for numerous books and films.

The tale first came to public attention in the fictionalized version presented in the suspense novel Psycho written by Robert Block in 1959, which as we know was the basis for Alfred Hitchcock's 1960 film Psycho, which is a classic. Do you like that movie? Of course. It's so good. I think that's my favorite Alfred Hitchcock movie. Like really? Yeah. Do you have another one? Vertigo. Oh, you like it.

Vertigo is my favorite. I've noticed some vertigo. I hate lately. What? Yeah. I don't who I actually was I noticed it on my Twitter timeline. Like a lot in the past few weeks and I was like, did that movie like get released on some, you know, streaming service or something? Like why is everyone all of a sudden hating on vertigo? You know what it might be is because vertigo is so popular and acclaimed. People probably want to have the edgy take look. Actually, it's not that great. Yeah. And I feel like. I'm

I haven't seen it in a very long time, but I remember liking it fine like when I did see it a long time ago. I like vertigo. I mean two of them big reasons I like vertigo takes place in San Francisco. Yes. And the Bay Area and I grew up there and the close. Yes, it's a it has a great look. And I also love the poster. Oh, yeah, the posters are just classic and I just love Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, I'm not quite sure what people's complaints are.

And I didn't look into it, but it was something I noticed the past few weeks that I was, but was interesting.

Anyways, I like psycho a lot. Now in addition to psycho, this story was loosely adapted into a bunch of films.

There's a movie called derange that came out in 1974 in the light of the moon. Another movie that came out in 2000.

There's a movie that's actually based on him called Ed Gain, the butcher of Plainfield that came out in 2007. Rob Zombie films. I haven't seen these house about thousand corpses and it's sequel. I guess had some character or element based on him.

As well as the devil's rejects. That's the sequel to house of a thousand corpses. Did you remember an Ed Gain like character? I mean, there's like definitely some gross things happening.

Like maybe Gain like leather face and Texas chainsaw massacre is sort of loosely based on Gain. I would say more inspired by his crimes or they loosely based this leather face on him.

Well, I'm just reading what I did research on. It's not my opinion. I mean, it's pretty commonly said that that elements of that guy, I guess maybe cutting up the face out of the pieces and putting it on his head.

Yeah, the story's not inspired by it. No, but like elements, like Buffalo Bill is also sort of based on some Gain like absolutely things. And then there was a character on doctor, I'm sorry, on American horror store asylum called Dr. Oliver Thredson that I guess was also I think a lot of these are like amalgamations of a few different people usually.

I would say that Ed Gain is one of those serial killers that has been used as inspiration for like, I mean just countless different fictional characters.

Yeah, because it's a one of a kind story. And the fact that it happened in the 50s, like basically, I feel like it just seems like even crazier that it's like from the old, like not like a more modern thing.

You know what I'm saying? Like for me anyway, it seems like crazy that it happened sort of in that decade. Now I think we talked about this on one episode. I can't remember which one it was, but arrow Morris and Warner Herzog at some point had attempted to collaborate on a project about him.

Actually, it was in 1975 to 1976 Morris interviewed Gain several times and ended up spending almost a year in Plainfield interviewing local residents.

The pair planned to exume his mother from her grave to test a theory that they had, but they never followed through on that scheme.

Hasn't that mother been through enough? You know what? I don't have that much sympathy for her.

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