One of the early exposés is around the time of the Kennedy assassination.

I think it's like it might be 60, 30, 60, 40s by David Wise.

And I think it's called the secret government.

And it gets into some of this stuff.

And you know, you did have like I'd

reminion that article that came out like a couple of months before

Kennedy's killed where in the New York Times and the Washington,

another Washington newspaper, it said that the CIA's out of control.

There might be a say in the May.

So there are these things that do start to come out.

But you know, Garrison didn't know about that much, that, that stuff.

And so these, this business with Clay Shaw, he gets acquitted.

But you know, they find out a whole lot of things after the fact that he was involved with,

including well, one mystery that gets solved is the Climbertrand angle,

like why he chose that name.

The reason he picked it seems to be because of Pope Clement V,

whose surname was Bertrand DeGout.

And the Pope had, this Pope had sheltered homosexuals in the 14th century.

And so his legacy lived on in the sort of closet at homosexual community.

So much so that they're developed a Climbertrand society,

which helped homosexuals with legal problems.

And so the Shaw Bertrand thing where he's, you know,

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