This is interrupted by Matt Jones on News Radio 840 WHAS.

Now here's Matt Jones.

It is episode 16 interrupted by Matt Jones, presented by Cornbread Hemp.

This is the Good Life.

And listen, there are very few people in sports that are more interesting to talk to than the

next guy Pablo Torre he has used to be on ESPN he works for uh what's the name of lebitards media

company metal arc media the sweatiest most principled startup in the sports media yes and does and does a podcast, Pablo Torre finds out.

Pablo, thank you very much for taking the time to chat.

We've known each other from afar for years, but I appreciate it.

I mean, so long.

I feel like our DMs are full of would-be.

I wasn't always, PTFO is only almost two years old. If it had existed,

RDMs would have been a real, I would say, episode generator, man. That's true. Of course,

happy to do this. Well, so I actually thought, you have an interesting story, but I want to do

the personal stuff at the end. But I actually thought, part of the way to do this is,

and Pablo Tori finds out, when I heard what you were going to do, I thought to myself,

I'm going to be honest with you. There's no way that's not going to work. You can't do

journalism in podcast form. That's just not going to work. And it has. And I thought in order

to sort of get people to understand what you do, I thought we

would go through some of the stories you've done and just have you talk about them and get people

to understand. But first, when you decided, I'm going to do long form sports journalism in a

podcast world. Why did you think that would work? It was a race that no one else wanted to run.

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