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You're listening to the Bible for Normal People, the only God-ordained podcast on the Internet.

Serious talk about the Sacred Book, I'm Pete Ends.

And I'm Jared Byas.

Welcome all you normal people back to the podcast.

Today our question is what's the practical value of the Old Testament?

I think Pete, yeah you're getting tired of your job.

So this is really comes from you questioning existence of Christ.

What am I doing?

Oh my goodness, I'm ruining people's lives.

So we are talking actually with Ellen Davis, who I was really excited to talk with.

She is a professor of Bible and practical theology actually at Duke Divinity School.

Yeah she sort of you know bridges I got between academic work and practical work and there's

just like no barrier for her. It's like almost like it's an extension of one big thing which is

you know not often the way people talk about it.

Sometimes there's a big wall between academic work and preaching but not for her.

So she's really interested in practical stuff.

My introduction to Ellen Davis was from friends who were really being

into farming and agriculture and that's actually where they knew her from and introduced her to me.

Wow it's almost as if she's connected to life somehow.

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