What's happened everybody? Welcome to Fairly Normal. I am here with my...

Would you call yourself a sports broadcaster? How would you call...

That's a great question. I would call myself, I don't know. Yeah, I, I, for personality.

Personality? Personality, maybe? Clay Travis. Yes. Now, Clay, okay, first of all, the reason I completely dig you and what you do is because it's like the first, I remember the first time you were doing radio in Nashville.

Yep. I went on your show and I was like, oh I like this dude, he's got an opinion. Yes. And then I was like, oh, I like this dude, he's got an opinion.

Yes.

And then I was like, well, he can't stay on radio for very long

because he's gonna get fired.

Right.

How many times, like, when did you, my first question I guess is, when did you my first question I guess is when did you discover early on

that having an opinion would separate you from the pack or is that something that just

came naturally? Yeah it's a great question so I started off. So I went to I went to school. I went to law school. I started practicing a law. And I had this moment where I was in my law office and

Well, you were a practicing attorney. Practicing attorney 25 25 years old I'm standing in my office and I have this moment where I realize like I'm going to be doing the exact same thing every day for the rest of my life you know know if I do this job and one of the things

it was like a crystallizing moment we were arguing over whether February 29th

was excusable neglect because somebody had missed a filing deadline obviously a leap year every four years and so like my issue with that was you go to law school and you get confronted with all these great issues of the day and it's like Brown versus Board of Education and it's like

you're going to be a great paragon of virtue and justice and you know the truth

will set you free and few good men and all these great legal thrillers.

And then the practicality of being a lawyer

is nothing like that in a modern day.

You're a 25, 26 year old young grad

sitting in front of a computer

like looking for the word asbestos and a document for 12 hours a day.

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