Episode 16: Authorizing Force Against the Islamic State

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2017

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Professors Vladeck and Chesney walk listeners through a recent proposal by Rep. Adam Schiff to replace the 2001 and 2002 AUMFs with a new "consolidated" AUMF that would explicitly name the Islamic State while also tweaking current authorities in certain interesting ways. Before that, however, they find plenty of time to argue about the significance of the latest twists and turns involving Sally Yates, Mike Flynn, and Jim Comey, and to forecast the next steps in the unfolding litigation surrounding the Executive Order on immigration. The episode also checks in with some recent developments involving ground forces in Somalia and Afghanistan, not to mention the National Emergencies Act and its application in Syria, Yemen, and Central African Republic. But all that is mere prelude, of course, to an extended appreciation for the music of the Indigo Girls. The episode may not be Closer to Fine, but hopefully you'll enjoy it nonetheless. And if you do, please rate it and spread the word to others!

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 16 of the National Security Law podcast brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas. I'm Bobby Chesney. And I'm Steve Vlodick. Bobby, it's a ball night. Ball night. Ball night. Game five of the Spurs and the Rockets. All right, Bobby, how nervous are you? I am confident, Steve, like all good Spurs fans, I know we can overcome this.
0:25.2	I'll be the first to admit we stunk it up in two out of the four games so far, especially
0:30.1	the last one.
0:31.1	On the other hand, Houston's super stunked up in two other games, so it's kind of hard to
0:35.1	conclude anything other than neither of these
0:37.9	teams are looking all that great right now.
0:40.5	Well, it makes our interesting television, if nothing else.
0:42.4	It does.
0:43.0	Bobby, we also, as we sit here, it's about 2.30 on, what is it, Tuesday, May 9th.
0:48.3	Uh-huh.
0:48.7	Our students are taking their counterterrorism law final examination.
0:52.5	They are indeed, and hopefully none of them are going to be listening to this immediately
0:56.4	afterwards.
0:57.1	But we can't talk about it anyways because we have a few students who have not yet had the chance
1:00.8	to take it.
1:01.0	But I think it would be fun in a couple weeks when we're clear.
1:04.6	Maybe when we've finished grading.
1:06.7	Oh, yeah.
1:07.3	All right, so five years from now, right?
1:09.7	It actually might be fun to tell folks what we tested on.
1:12.9	Absolutely.
1:13.5	I'm all for actually bringing some of the pedagogy into this.
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