Welcome to CertainSkale rewind with your hosts, Matt Fondleer and Ian Bag.

Yeah, what's up everybody? Welcome back to Sword and Scale rewind. This is episode 159.

Can't believe we're still doing it. I love it. I'm one of the hosts, Matt Fondleer.

Join once again by Ian Bag. Hello Matt. Hey Ian, how are you buddy? I'm pretty good.

Good. I was in Minnesota a couple of weekends ago and there was a guy there that was a huge Sword and Scale fan

didn't know that I was on the rewind show. Hasn't listened to it in forever and is gonna start listening to it now.

I was thrilled that Mike is part of it. Well that is a great introduction for the Sword and Scale Mastermind

himself, Mike Budey. Welcome back. That's a lot of pressure. I don't know about that.

Yes. You handle it well every time now. I almost as much as when you said be funny before we do this.

I didn't say be funny. I said be funny. God damn it. I then you're rode by on a horse and whip me.

Tell me about to go back to my country. Well if you've never listened to it this show before,

this is a reaction commentary show. It's a companion piece really to Sword and Scale. So if you want to

hear the real facts of the case, you want to learn about what really went down. I highly suggest you

re-listen to the episode of Sword and Scale because we kind of just fuck around on this show. This show goes sideways

immediately. Real quick. But we do try to cover the main parts of each case but you know sometimes we go on

tangents that's part of the fun now. Sometimes we get the facts wrong and sometimes Matthew lets the victim have it.

Yeah. Become a recurring theme of this show apparently. Why is Shedna been there if you didn't want to get murdered?

Yeah. Seriously. Well let me just say I got super excited because I was doing the math and I was like oh my

God this episode airs on Halloween and there's a letter on Halloween but then I find out this airs the

weekend. Say Halloween. It's the week after Halloween. Say Halloween. Halloween. You used to

Halloween. Halloween. Yeah Halloween. Oh I'm gonna get loads about this now. They're gonna call me a wood bug again.

Oh no. You got those guys that can't spit right what bug?

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