Episode 157: The First Thanksgiving – The Real Story
Newt's World
Gingrich 360
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 25 November 2020
⏱️ 31 minutes
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What was the first Thanksgiving really like for the pilgrims? What struggles did they endure to make the transatlantic journey from Europe to Plymouth, Massachusetts? And once they arrived, what happened to them? The first Thanksgiving is a window on the American past and was a very different experience than the holiday we celebrate today. Newt’s guest is Dr. Tracy McKenzie, Professor and Chair of History at Wheaton College in Illinois.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Newt, do the virus I'm recording from home. |
| 0:03.2 | So you may notice a difference in audio quality. |
| 0:10.7 | On this episode of Newt's World, Dr. Tracy McKenzie is an accomplished historian, author, |
| 0:17.5 | and professor of history. After 22 years as a professor at the University of Washington, |
| 0:24.1 | he moved to Wheaton College, Illinois, where he holds the Arthur Holmes Chair of Faith and Learning. |
| 0:31.2 | Though it maintains an extensive background in post-Sovil War history, while at Wheaton College, |
| 0:36.8 | Tracy's turn to his focus towards the way American evangelicals remember their national origin. |
| 0:43.1 | One of many works he authored, the first Thanksgiving, with the real story tells us about loving |
| 0:49.5 | God and the learning history. This book provides an accurate account of the first Thanksgiving |
| 0:55.5 | and gives insight into misconceptions about the origins of this classic American holiday, |
| 1:01.6 | and how it really ought to be remembered. So I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, Dr. Tracy McKenzie. |
| 1:08.2 | Thank you very much for joining us. I just have to ask you, given all of your background in history, |
| 1:23.6 | what motivated you to write this book? Great question. I'm sort of going through an evolution |
| 1:29.1 | as a teacher and a scholar as this author in the case, and I wanted to be able to speak more to |
| 1:34.8 | individuals outside of the walls of the academy. I'm a Christian myself, and also I wanted to be able |
| 1:40.8 | to speak to Christian readers about how they remember the past. And I particularly was drawn to |
| 1:45.9 | the topic of Thanksgiving because I think, you know, the way that we remember this event, |
| 1:50.4 | says so much about how our memory to pass intersects with our sense of who we are, both our national |
| 1:55.7 | heritage and our faith heritage. And I thought Thanksgiving was a great way to probe into that. |
| 2:00.7 | I knew that you once wrote an article for the New York Times, sort of taking apart some of the |
| 2:05.3 | common misconceptions Americans have about the programs. From your perspective, |
| 2:09.9 | were you surprised by some of the things you learned as you delved into the first Thanksgiving? |
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