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I'm welcome to the broad experience, the show about women, the workplace and success. I'm Ashley Milne Tite.

And in this episode, I'm handing over the reins to Lauren Schiller. Lauren's the host of the

Inflection Point podcast. I've mentioned it on the show before, and I'm sure some of you are already

listeners. We're working together as part of a summer swap series. And I picked this

episode to air that Lauren did with the writer Ruth Whitman a couple of years ago. It's called

More Than Power Poses, why self-empowerment is a myth and what we can do instead. So Ruth like me

was born and raised in England and we definitely share some

cultural experiences and particularly the experience of looking at American culture with an

outsider's eye. And in this conversation, Ruth and Lauren question that lean-in-like advice

that if you just make enough of an effort to help yourself,

power, influence, and happiness will be yours. Here's Lauren.

From KALW and PRX, this is Inflection Point, stories of how women rise up. I'm Lauren Schiller. People who are in the happiness business are financially incentivized to believe that we have a lot of control over our happiness.

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