Episode 156: The "Best of" Series – Why Read Fairy Tales, Ep. 70
The Literary Life Podcast
Angelina Stanford
4.7 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 24 January 2023
⏱️ 91 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to another episode in our "Best of The Literary Life Podcast" series. Today on The Literary Life Podcast, Angelina Stanford and Cindy Rollins tackle the topic of fairy stories, discussing the what, why and how of reading them. Angelina shares the distinctive characteristics of fairy stories in contrast to other types of stories, such as myths. They deal with the question of whether fairy tales are "escapist", the influence of the Grimm brothers scholarly work on interpreting fairy stories, and allowing the story to unveil its deeper truths without forcing meaning onto it.
Angelina gives an illustration of how to see the gospel messages in fairy tales by talking us through the story of Sleeping Beauty. She refutes the ideas that fairy tales are about human romance or are misogynistic. She also highlights some of the Enlightenment and Puritan responses to fairy tales that still linger with us today. Cindy and Angelina also discuss some common concerns such as the magical, weird, or scary aspects of fairy tales. Angelina also makes a distinction between folk tales, literary fairy tales, and cautionary tales.
Other Literary Life series openers referenced in this episode:
Episode 20: An Experiment in Criticism by C. S. Lewis
Episode 71: Phantastes by George MacDonald
Episode 30: The Literary Life of Caitlin Beauchamp
Commonplace Quotes:
After a certain kind of sherry party, where there have been cataracts of culture but never on word or one glance that suggested a real enjoyment of any art, any person, or any natural object, my heart warms to the schoolboy on the bus who is reading Fantasy and Science Fiction rapt and oblivious of all the world beside.
C. S. Lewis
Children are not deceived by fairy tales. They are often and gravely deceived by school stories. Adults are not deceived by science fiction. They can be deceived by stories in women's magazines.
C. S. Lewis
Both fairy stories and realistic stories engage in wish fulfillment, but it is actually the realistic stories that are more deadly. Fairy stories do awaken desires in children, but most often it is not a desire for the fairy world itself. Most children don't really want there to be dragons in modern England. Instead, the desire is for they know not what. This desire for something beyond does not empty the real world, but actually gives it new depths. He does not despise real woods because he has read of enchanted woods. The reading makes all real woods a little enchanted.
C. S. Lewis
Ancient History
by Siegfried Sassoon
Adam, a brown old vulture in the rain,
Shivered below his wind-whipped olive-trees;
Huddling sharp chin on scarred and scraggy knees,
He moaned and mumbled to his darkening brain;
'He was the grandest of them all—was Cain!
'A lion laired in the hills, that none could tire;
'Swift as a stag; a stallion of the plain,
'Hungry and fierce with deeds of huge desire.'
Grimly he thought of Abel, soft and fair—
A lover with disaster in his face,
And scarlet blossom twisted in bright hair.
'Afraid to fight; was murder more disgrace? …
'God always hated Cain' … He bowed his head—
The gaunt wild man whose lovely sons were dead.
Book List:
Phantastes by George MacDonald
The World's Last Night by C. S. Lewis
An Experiment in Criticism by C. S. Lewis
"On Three Ways of Writing for Children" by C. S. Lewis
Surprised by Joy by C. S. Lewis
The Princess and The Goblin by George MacDonald
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Literary Life Podcast. |
| 0:03.0 | We've grown quite significantly since our debut in 2019, |
| 0:07.0 | and we've had many requests to highlight older episodes that new listeners may have missed, |
| 0:12.0 | as well as revisit listener favorites. |
| 0:15.4 | To honor that request, I present to you this episode of the Best of the Literary Life |
| 0:20.4 | podcast. Life Podcast. |
| 0:30.0 | This is not just another book chat podcast. Lifelong and |
| 0:33.0 | Angelina Stanford and Thomas Banks |
| 0:35.0 | for an ongoing conversation |
| 0:37.0 | about the skill and art of reading well. |
| 0:40.0 | Explore the lost intellectual tradition and discover how to fully enter into the great works of literature. |
| 0:47.0 | Learn what books mean while delighting in the sheer joy of imagination. |
| 0:52.0 | Each week we will rescue stories. the sheer joy of imagination. |
| 0:53.2 | Each week we will rescue a story from the ivory tower |
| 0:56.6 | and bring it to your couch, your kitchen, |
| 0:59.4 | and your commute. |
| 1:01.0 | The literary life is for everyone, because in the words of Stratford Caldecott, to be enchanted by story is to be granted a deeper insight into reality. |
| 1:11.0 | Join us for an ever unfolding discussion of how stories will save the world. |
| 1:17.0 | This is the Literary Life Podcast. And Hello and welcome to the literary life podcast. I am Angelina Stanford and I am here |
| 1:41.6 | today with the blondeest of the blonde |
| 1:43.6 | bombshells herself the original fair hair of Charlotte Mason education |
| 1:47.9 | Cindy Rollins. |
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