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I'm very glad to have an apply cast for the first time, Kim Clipperstein, who is the National

Security Reporter for the Intercept.

Previously, the nation's DC correspondent, welcome, Kim.

Good to be with you.

And returning to the podcast for the upteam time, the journalist whose coverage I would be

lost without founder of the Daily poster and Oscar-nominated screenwriter David Saruto.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me.

We are here today to talk about an aspect of the Ukraine conflict that's a little bit

attenuated from it.

We dove in last week, and I want to broaden us out a little bit.

And what made me want to talk about the subject is that you can wrote an article last week

in the intercept called Saudi Russia.

The collusion is driving up gas prices and worsening the Ukraine crisis.

And over the Daily poster, David, you have done some coverage of how energy lobbyists

are trying to exploit this moment.

So I wanted to have this conversation about what the energy sector implies for this broader

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