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Jeff, how are you? Well well i'm trying to deal with

a little bit of skullduggery behind the scenes here scott so i i know that we're taping this

episode right now but i i i regret to inform you that i'm also secretly taping another episode of

the show with another guy later on because i'm i'm auditioning new co-hosts.

Well, there's nothing I can do about that.

Just let me know your decision when you come to it, I suppose.

You're not getting any writing credits, my friend.

Jeff's On X at Esoteric CD.

And our guest for today's episode is Dr. Ivan Pongrassick Jr.

He's the William E. Hibbs Ludwig von Mises Professor of Economics at Hillsdale College.

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