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Blocked and Reported

Episode 155: Hannah Barnes On The Collapse Of One Of The Most Important Youth Gender Clinics In The World

Blocked and Reported

Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

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4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2023

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

While Katie is stranded somewhere in flyover country, buried under 15 feet of snow inside her van with her wife and dog, Jesse interviews Hannah Barnes, the author of Time to Think: The Inside Story of the Collapse of the Tavistock’s Gender Service for Children. Consider this foreshadowing for what is likely to happen in the States.

Barnes’ book

https://www.amazon.com/Time-Think-Collapse-Tavistocks-Children-ebook/dp/B0BCL1T2XN

Tavistock gender clinic gets shut down

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665

Singal’s very nerdy work on DSM-V criteria

https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/how-science-vs-made-two-gender-dysphoriahttps://jessesingal.substack.com/p/how-science-vs-accidentally-invented

I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids

Tavistock puberty blocker study published after nine years

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55282113

Jamie Reed’s sworn affidavit

https://www.stltoday.com/online/jamie-reed-affidavit-released-by-missouri-attorney-general/pdf_48d5bafa-46f0-5312-aa42-409ad88bd2e7.html

Jesse explains how self-reported studies are quite weak

https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/science-vs-cited-seven-studies-to

https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/the-new-study-on-rapid-onset-gender

Cass interim report

https://cass.independent-review.uk/publications/interim-report/

The UK’s new guidelines

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/exclusive-nhs-drafts-stricter-oversight-trans-youth-care-2022-10-14/

Mermaids is controversial!

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/17/mermaids-why-has-the-trans-charity-been-in-the-news

BBC: Children's gender identity clinic concerns go back 15 years

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54374165

Tavistock trust whistleblower David Bell: ‘I believed I was doing the right thing’

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/may/02/tavistock-trust-whistleblower-david-bell-transgender-children-gids



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0:00.0

Kati, what's up? Kati? Oh right, Kati's not here this week. She has not for the first

0:16.6

time decided to drive across the country rather than fly like a normal person. I believe

0:22.0

this is because her dog Moose is on the terrorist watchlist and therefore cannot fly.

0:27.3

So it's Moose, Kati and Kati's wife, Janna, puttering their way across the country in

0:31.5

a giant van as they are battered repeatedly by giant blizzards. It's basically the organ

0:37.1

trail but much more dangerous and it would shock me if there hasn't been a dysentery outbreak

0:41.4

yet. Also, apparently, and I am not making this up, Kati and her wife both lost their

0:47.4

wallets. They're not home yet. They're in the middle of wherever without their wallets.

0:52.3

So I'm not sure how they're going to get back home and I am working on drawing up a list

0:55.5

of potential replacement hosts. Anyway, I'm running the show this week and I decided to give

1:00.7

this episode over to an interview I did with Hannah Barnes about her recently released

1:04.8

book Time to Think, the inside story of the collapse of the Tabestock's Gender Service

1:09.9

for Children. Hannah works at BBC News Night where for years she has spearheaded its coverage

1:15.1

of youth gender medicine at the National Health Service. As her book jacket explains,

1:20.0

that coverage, quote, helped precipitate an extensive NHS review and unearthed evidence

1:25.0

that was later used in several sets of legal proceedings. News nights reporting also

1:29.2

led directly to an inspection by the health care regulator of the Care Quality Commission,

1:33.8

which branded JIDS, the NHS's only youth gender clinic in England inadequate. The work

1:39.0

was nominated for an array of awards, including the prestigious RTS Television Journalism Awards.

1:45.2

So the JIDS clinic is being shut down and it's being replaced with smaller regional clinics

1:52.0

and different locations. This episode is a little different from what we usually do around

1:54.5

here. It's a bit more of a traditional log form broadcast interview, a bit less bantery,

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