Episode 154: Straight Talk + Empathy: Women, Men, and Leadership in Crisis

The Broad Experience

Careers, Society & Culture, Business

5.0 • 592 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

You’ve probably seen some of the stories: women leaders around the world are “stepping up to show the world how to manage a messy patch for our human family.” I’m quoting one of this week’s guests, Avivah Wittenberg-Cox, from her Forbes piece on women leaders’ success during the pandemic. She and other writers on this topic make the same point: when you look at countries with the best coronavirus outcomes so far, they often have one thing in common - a woman at the top. In this week’s show Avivah and Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, author of Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders? discuss the leadership styles we’re seeing during this global crisis, why Andrew Cuomo can chat about recipes on TV where Jacinda Ardern probably couldn’t, and whether today’s female leaders will change anything for women in the future.

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0:35.9	But for now, just relax.
0:37.8	I'm welcome to the broad experience, the show about women, the workplace, and success.
0:55.5	I'm Ashley Milne tight.
1:00.9	This time, what some of the best leaders during this pandemic have in common.
1:02.6	They get results.
1:06.7	They don't dominate screens to build their brands.
1:09.3	They're not in it for themselves.
1:16.0	They're on the ground getting the system fixed so that people stop dying.
1:18.4	And many of this group are women.
1:29.7	Maybe a pandemic will be the trigger or the factor that actually makes people realize that we can't just have a bunch of overconfident, narcissistic,
1:33.1	egomaniac males in power when they are clueless.
1:38.4	Women, men and leadership in crisis. Coming up on the broad experience. So for a few weeks now, news stories have been cropping up on this theme.
1:52.8	Countries that are doing better with the coronavirus are often led by women.
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