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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 153: This Podcast Has All the Elsas (But No Eminem)

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

And we're back, with a fresh episode at last.  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate the latest national security law developments.  This week they cover: Donald Trump pressuring Main DOJ to override the sentencing recommendation made by line prosecutors in order to help Roger Stone Donald Trump pressuring DOD to retaliate against Lt. Col. Vindman (followed by, coincidentally, our discussion of the Military Whistleblower Protection Act) A quick overview of federal quarantine law, just in case... The case of Omar Ameen and legal issues associated with non-refoulement The War Powers bill in the Senate: what would it actually mean to "withdraw" from hostilities with Iran, while still being in Iraq and Syria to fight the Islamic State? Steve gets all the colors! (You have to listen to find out what that means) We end, as always, with frivolity.  Oscar awards recap time!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin. Welcome to episode 153 of the National Security Law podcast. We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas. It's Wednesday morning, February 12th, 2020. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve

0:21.7

Vladik. I have not yet resigned from the Justice Department in protest. I'm so glad to hear

0:28.6

that. We need you in there, Steve, continuing to do your job at the Justice Department.

0:33.1

John Cravis was a classman of mine in law school. Is that right? And is as good a guy as there comes.

0:38.8

Even though he went to Williams, you know, that he and I are friends, even though he went to Williams, tells you a lot about how good a guy he is.

0:46.1

You wouldn't hold your friendships hostage to policy differences.

0:50.4

Why look at us?

0:51.9

Hey, two of my groomsmen went to Williams.

0:56.4

So we obviously are going to have some Trumplandia segment coverage involving the Roger Stone prosecutorial

1:02.1

recommendation debacle and the associated. You like that? I do. That's a fun one to say. By the way,

1:07.3

the other day I was using the word interregnum, and some people really give me a hard time about that.

1:11.2

What do you think?

1:11.6

Is that obscure?

1:12.8

I don't feel like that's that obscure.

1:14.0

Were you referring to the period of English history from 1649 to 1660?

1:18.4

I was using it in the more generalized sense where you kind of can take any gap in rule to describe that as an interregnum.

1:25.8

So I'm a little rusty in my Latin.

1:29.9

Interregnum, the regnum part, right?

1:31.1

Yeah, it's between kingships.

1:31.4

Right.

1:35.0

So, so not like, you know, it's not like there's an interregnum when there's, like,

1:35.8

no prime minister.

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