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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 152: John Bolton Is Welcome to Testify on this Podcast

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2020

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

After a wholly-frivolous episode last week, we are back with...well...a slightly-frivolous episode this week.  Tune in as your co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney review and debate: The likely procedural, jurisdictional, and other legal issues that may arise if and when the Senate issues a subpoena to John Bolton and the White House attempts to prevent his testimony. The Justice Department's recent decision to concede the impropriety of two of the FISA Title I applications that had been submitted to the FISC in relation to Carter Page, and what this might mean as we continue to barrel towards the Ides of March deadline for renewal (or not) of four FISA authorities. Testimony at GTMO from the architects of the "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" program CIA used on high-value detainees, reminding us among other things that the 9/11 trial is supposed to start in (checks watch) less than a year. Eddie Gallagher's decision to denounce the servicemembers who testified against him, and then to circulate information about precisely where those people can be found, might seem merely bad taste in the case of a civilian.  But for a retired servicemember subject to recall, and subject as well to the rather broad scope of certain UCMJ offenses, might the answer be different? The show concludes with a reminiscence about Kobe Bryant, and then a review of...Picard, of course!

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin. Welcome to Episode 152, the National Security Law podcast. We are brought to you by the Robert Strauss Center at the University of Texas. It's Wednesday. It's January 29th. It's

0:21.3

2020. It's Bobby Chesney. It's Steve Blodick. Here we are. Hello. Nice to see you.

0:26.5

How are your classes going now that we've gotten a week and a half into this semester?

0:30.7

I love Fed Courts. You don't say. Nobody knew that. I walk into that class happy and I walk out of that class happy.

0:39.5

What kind of looks around your student's faces at those two points in time?

0:42.5

That's a separate problem.

0:43.2

I bet they're actually a lot happier than the typical Fed Court student, which is the relevant comparison.

0:49.0

I walk in the first day of class and I say, guys, if I do my job right, this is going to be the hardest

0:54.5

class you take in law school and the funnest. And, you know, I'm going for both of those things

1:00.7

in equal measure. I like that. I think that's actually a great framing. I really firmly believe

1:05.7

as a pedagogical matter, and also for our own enjoyment of our jobs, throwing yourself into the role.

1:12.6

And it is kind of a role.

1:14.0

Throw yourself into the performance.

1:15.3

We're performing.

1:16.2

Yeah, definitely.

1:17.1

Well, so we're five classes in for constitutional law.

1:20.4

Yeah.

1:20.7

The students are awesome.

1:22.0

The Constitution's still there?

1:23.5

Yeah, indeed.

1:25.2

It is pretty funny.

1:26.4

Some of the topics that used to not feel like they had a lot of permanent, you know, current residents.

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