What's up guys? So today on the podcast, we have a friend of mine, James Klingerman. He's going to be on the podcast with us. James is a, he's an old school black belt. He'll talk about when he started training, he started training back in the day. And, you know, when I was a white belt, who just got started, I met him for the first time in 2004 at my last white belt tournament. I met him. And then he then he and Mike, my coach at the time, Mike, were friends.

And then afterwards, we all went out to get Mexican food together after the tournament was over.

And I remember he was just, he was super cool and I liked him a lot.

And he's, you know, been a friend pretty much ever since and as I've come

along the way like I've competed at his competitions and stuff like that so

we're excited to have more and also for you guys that are listening the dude's

been through some stuff so you know he'll talk about it on the podcast but some

stuff that probably would have you, gotten most people out of it.

He basically just kept going, you know.

I mean, it's a substantial injury that did not come from jiu-jitsu.

He did not have any control over it.

And, you know, the crazy bastard kept going.

And he's super, like, lighthearted about it just he's kind

of very much like that's part of the thing and and he's he hasn't like you said and it hasn't let

it stop him one bit my favorite part of the podcast I would say one of my favorites is when we

asked some of these guys that are these OGs, old grapplers or older grapplers,

and we asked him like where they started training,

where their actual training facility was,

because it's usually not a standalone gym,

it's somewhere weird.

And so he's got a really cool place where they started training.

Yeah, so I hope you guys enjoy this one.

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