Hey y'all, you're listening to the Join the Journey podcast with your host, Emma Daughter.

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Thanks for joining. I am in the podcast studio with today's Devo writer, Carrie Beckner.

Hey, Emma. Thanks for having me.

You're so welcome. I'm glad you're here. I was looking at your bio on your divojointhejury.com.

If you don't know, that's where you can find it.

And you said that Carrie is not your legal name.

What is your actual name?

Yeah.

So I do go by Carrie.

I introduce myself as Carrie.

Everyone knows me that way. That's actually a nickname. It's not legal anywhere. So my real name is Zachariah.

Zachariah. What's the story? So my parents decided they would name me Zachariah without knowing whether or not I was going to be a boy or girl, because they just love the name.

It's from the Bible. There was a show in the 70s that they loved the name.

And so we went with it. And when we started telling, they, when they started telling the rest of my family that they were going to name me Zachariah, they got a lot of negative feedback.

I can imagine. They did.

They did.

And so I also have the nickname of Carrie, which is a family name.

It goes back several generations.

But I didn't actually know that my name was Zachariah because everybody called me Carrie, including my parents, until I got registered for the first grade.

And my teacher was asking me me what did I want to be

called, Zach or Zachariah. And I was like, who are you talking about? You're like, what? I'm

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