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This Jungian Life Podcast

Episode 15 -- Toxic Masculinity

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

How can we understand the superficial label assigned to masculine behavior in today’s meme-driven style of discourse?

The Dream:

I am walking on what seems to be mountainous hills. A little ahead of me is what feels like my teenage daughter and a friend. It’s kind of like twilight. Then I see a giant size footprint on the hillside. Huge, like a natural wonder-of-the-world type of site. I point at it like the way one does when one sees something pretty or interesting on holidays. Then I take a photo.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:03.0

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee,

0:09.0

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

0:17.0

I'm Lisa Marciano and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia.

0:22.0

I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

0:27.0

I'm Deborah Stewart, a youngian analyst on Cape Cod.

0:31.0

Today we're going to be talking about this new buzz phrase that seems to be showing up in

0:37.4

media toxic masculinity.

0:41.2

What is it?

0:42.1

What isn't it? How is it being understood? Perhaps how it is being misunderstood? And how can we deconstruct this as

0:50.6

Jungian analysts in a way that we can metabolize it and maybe find a deeper meaning,

0:56.3

maybe there's something that the culture is trying to speak to and trying to find language for. So toxic masculinity, I'm wondering in terms of

1:06.4

in terms of the feminine, in terms of the social justice sphere, how is the term

1:11.2

being used? This has sort of caught my attention recently because it does seem like it's become a buzz phrase and I always find myself getting curious about phrases that sort of enter the common parlance in this way, sort of what is that about?

1:26.3

And you know, I think there's many ways to think about the term toxic masculinity and I think it could have some validity. I think it's often getting

1:36.7

used to imply that maleness itself is toxic. I think so too. I think that that's an old story, the kind of man-bashing.

1:46.0

And actually if we can look back to cartoons even from the 50s and you know seeing Dagwood as this kind of

1:55.1

of moronic husband who is constantly sticking his foot in his mouth or is clueless

2:00.0

about how to function outside of some narrow office position.

2:05.0

This is an old kind of story, but I think that with the Me Too movement coming forward,

2:11.0

there's a ferocity about this idea that men or toxic or anything that men touch

2:17.8

is somehow spoiled.

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