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Origin Stories

Episode 15: The Grandmother Hypothesis

Origin Stories

Meredith Johnson

Natural Sciences, Science, Life Sciences

4.8554 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2016

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

When Kristen Hawkes first started to research the foraging habits of the Hadza hunter-gatherers, she noticed that the older women in the society were spending their time collecting food and sharing it with their grandchildren. She started to wonder if this type of contribution from grandmothers might explain why humans have such long lives. Her grandmother hypothesis suggests that grandmothering may have led to many of the things that make humans different from other great apes.

Thanks to Kristen Hawkes of the University of Utah for sharing her work with us. Dr. Hawkes is a member of The Leakey Foundation's Scientific Executive Committee.

Links

Kristen Hawkes' Website

Grandmothers and the evolution of pair bonds

Grandmothers and the evolution of human longevity: a review of findings and future directions

Leakeyfoundation.org

Credits

This episode was produced by Schuyler Swenson. Our editor is Audrey Quinn. Scoring and mixing by Schuyler Swenson. Origin Stories theme music by Henry Nagle. Additional music by Lee Rosevere. 

Sponsors

This episode was produced with support from the Being Human initiative of The Baumann Foundation and The Leakey Foundation.

Transcripts are provided by Adept Word Management.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Origin Stories, the Leaky Foundation podcast. I'm Meredith Johnson.

0:21.6

In almost every other species, an animal's lifespan typically ends once they stop being able to have babies.

0:28.2

One thing that's special about humans is that we live on, well past our reproductive years, especially women.

0:35.0

We can live to take on another special role. We can be grandmothers.

0:39.8

Producer Skyler Swenson has our story.

0:45.6

No matter where you're from, at a certain point in one's adult life, the social expectation

0:51.2

to have kids sets in. Traditionally, no one puts on the pressure quite as much as dear old mom.

0:58.0

Sometimes it comes in the form of a subtle gesture or casual offhand remark.

1:02.9

Let's call them motherly micro-suggestions.

1:15.0

My friend Eli, for example, he's in his late 20s,

1:19.8

and his parents recently decided to make a bold move from their home in a Jersey suburb to be closer to him in Brooklyn, where they're restoring an old brownstone.

1:24.2

Here's Eli and his mother, Claudia.

1:26.3

Oh, so I guess it was like the first time I was really looking at the house.

1:30.9

After you bought it, we were, you guys were touring me around,

1:34.3

and we were kind of like upstairs in the big old guest room area.

1:38.9

And there's like that little room off the guest room area.

1:43.0

And it was just like a funny, it's a funny little room.

1:45.0

Like, what do you do with that little room?

1:48.4

A crib?

1:49.3

Yeah, very reasonably.

1:51.2

It would be a good room to have a little person.

1:54.5

I never said anything like that, but I call it the crib room.

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